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 Post subject: Re: Silmarillion FA army list for WOTR
PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:59 am 
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Hi everyone!
The One Ring disappeared for some two month - at least in Italy - I'm glad it's back again.

I'm currently making the last corrections and general controls, the 2.0 army list will be available very soon, hopefully in a few days.

For the list of battles, Kinsman is right about some scenarios better working with 5000 points or so. The problem is, hardly people really likes to play so huge games. So, as a general rule I'd rather prefer smaller battles; but may be a few exceptions might be done.
We'll see. There is a lot of work still to do and perhaps a specific topic would be a better way for dealing with that argument.

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Very well, we'll start the core of the discussion from now onwards, for I'm going to share my War of the Silmarlils 2.0 scenario files.

Please, have all of you remember this is a draft. A long draft, may be, and a good one, I really hope, but with still much to do.

I worked upon it long time and after deep bibliografical research.The armies and general spirit of the game are based upon the Quenta Silmarillion overall, but of course upon the Narn-i-hin-Hùrin, as well as upon many other writings (the Book of Lost tales, Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin, and others).

Armies, heroes ans special scenario rules are now to be discussed and playtested. I hope I may rely upon your help, at laeast as much you relied upon my efforts, for the stronger the sinergy, the better the final result - for the satisfaction of all of us.


As the argument is very large and complex, it will be splitted in more than one topic:

- in a first topic we'll discuss only about the specific scenario rules;

- a second topic will treat the Forces of Light;

- a third one will treat the Forces of Shadow;

- further topics will be opened later to discuss optional rules, battle scenarios and other.

Topics will be named: "War of the Silmarils - Topic #"

I give a special thank to Gimli52, who helped me very much into developing this 2.0 draft.

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I'm still in awe of the work you guys have put into this Silmarillion supplement.

I apologize that I have been absent these past several months, but now that I have some time during this Christmas time, I am starting to get painting again, and that means more Silmarillion painted elves!

I will be posting pictures of Nargothrond elves soon in my WIP thread.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:13 pm 
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Well, after much hesitation (because it will be hard a job), and much playtesting, in the end I decided to work upon a final version of the WotS game system with quite different graphics and many photos of suggested figurines and painting for the armies.

It will take time, hopefully it will be worth it.

I'll be in need of much than a lot of photos, so I'll have to use much what's available on the Internet, including this site itself; so I take the opportunity to invite those who do not want to see their own works on my rules, to let me know right now (here below or with a private message).
In any case, of all the images used I will give the name of the author or of the rights holder.

Here is a preview of the cover draft. The photo is temporary.


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Well done!!
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So, I started looking around and filling some of the boxes. I have to say that although there is virtually no house that has been specifically occupied by the First Era (exception: Mithril), the general offering of fantasy figurines is large enough to cover almost all the needs.
Inevitably remain some holes, and to resolve them, I hope someone can help me.

Let's start with the Elves.
Since I've thoroughly explored GW, Iron Forge, Reaper, Dark Sword and Mithril catalogs, I still can not find suitable figurines for the roles of:

- Feanor & sons (I only found a nice Curufin);
- Fingon;
- Dogs of Valinor and Huan (maybe some dogs in 54 mm?);
- Luthien;
- Elf light cavalry (hooded cloak and bow, like the Mirkwood GW types).

Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:24 pm 
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This below is a page draft of the new WotS we're currently playtesting.
I'd like to know your opinion about graphics, and if someone would be unpleased to see his pictures used on WotS rules without specific permission, but with his name reported as in this example.

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It looks great! Sorry my painting is terribly slow haha.
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Wow! This seems like a cool project!

I guess as far as giving credit, as long as you are not making money off of this than I don't think people will mind being featured.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:07 pm 
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Yes, it's a no-profit initiative, of course. :sad:

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Hsere below is an example of how I am proceeding. As you will recall there are 10 army lists (5 per side). Unlike WotR, they are almost all divided into realms, with sections of units that are common to all the realms of a same army list.
The one showed below is the Haladin realm - the men of the Forest of Brethil. The iprefation is only a draft, I think I will expand it with suggestions on which figurines/models could be more suitable. In other aspects I follow roughly the same outline of the WotR army lists, yet with a little 'less pictures (inevitably) and with the addition of flags and emblems (they are of the right measures, so can be cut).

In the end I can satisfactorily cover all the realms of Edain except, alas, that of Dor-lomin: GW Rohan, numenoreans and esterling I have already used elsewhere, so only Gondor and Arnor would remain available, but I consider them unsuitable (plate armour).
I am thinking of Saxons and Normans from Warlord, but I'm still undecided. Otherwise, more customized Rohan figures; but I have already abused it for other realms.
Does anyone have suggestions for Dor-lomin? Proposals? Photos?


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The last 2 pages of the realm:


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An update, after many months.
Work proceeds, even if not at the programmed pace; I passed the turning point, finally. The experimentation on the gaming table also goes on satisfactorily, with five enthusiastic players alternating. So, whilst I proceed with the rulebook, I continue to fine-tune it on the basis of game reports.
Here is another example of an army list among those completed. There are in total ten groups of realms, 5 of "good" and 5 of "bad", each with 2-6 different reams / army lists.
If anyone wants any clarification or further information, I'm glad to answer.


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Read the post above.

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The first page of the army list:


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The ultimate version of War of the Silmarils (or WoTS) will be published next July or, at the latest, in August. Is the fruit of four years of work, research on JRR Tolkien's texts, comparison with other players and playtesting. It will have a completely different graphic form from the previous ones, directly inspired by that of WotR rulebook - therefore exhaustively illustrated with regard to miniatures, banners and colors. In the appendix will also be proposed a dozen of some game scenarios.
In general it will not contemplate modifications to the basic regulation, however it will propose some "optional rules", that the gaming experience has suggested useful to improve the basic WotR system and that, therefore, could be adopted also outside WotS.

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That's amazing news. Looking forward to looking through it, although I haven't played a game in 7 years :rofl:
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:57 am 
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I announce that I have completed the WotS scenario book. It was really a huge work, but as far as I am concerned it was worth it and I am very satisfied.
I started working on the project in the spring of 2015, so I worked on it almost without interruption for over four years. Countless the games played, the soldiers painted, and the money spent ...
I still take a full month for checks and adjustments, then I'ill post the link towards the end of August as planned.

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Amazing! Can't wait to see it
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:12 pm 
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Epic work, really looking forward to it!

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