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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:27 am 
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Here's a few ideas for names: Epic Assassination, Epic Obliteration, Epic Bane, Epic Barrage, Epic Execution ... and my favorite: Epic Flogging.
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Epic butt whupping?
Epic Trouser pulling down?
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I am not GW, I do not make profiles of made-up characters to be overpowered. I picked a guy from the film, who GW made a model for and created a themed-rule for him. He's the guy on the left:

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Any more spam ideas will not be aclnowledges. One or two is tolerated. You know who I am talking to.

Assassination is too Lurtz-ish, Obliteration is what the Betrayer and Crossbows do. Bane is a themed rule, but a better idea. Barrage sounds niceish, I may think on'it, Execution though it sounds a bit silly, fits in with the idea of Gothmog telling him to "release the prisoners" when really he meant fling the severed heads at their living comrades. Flogging sounds like a spam idea, unless you continue with the "prisoners" theme here.

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Barrage is the only one which I like, but I prefer it above my own idea. Why would it be called Flogging, Assassination, etc.

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I have changed it to Barrage, and added Guritz to the main page. Whn I get the change I will update my WotR House Pts values.

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I know this topic is dead but I thought of adding my own two cents.

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A King’s Huntsman is a Command Company Upgrade available to formations of Oathsworn Militia, Oathsworn Bowmen and Riders of Rohan Eoreds.


Shouldn't he be able to be an upgrade for Outriders' Eoreds as well. It fits thematically with the idea of a huntsman. Other than that, thank you for taking the time and effort to create these profiles. :)

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Are you going to be doing the Hobbit minis anytime soon?

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@Constantine, thanks for the revival actually. And your welcome. 8)

Well, thematically, the Huntsman could go in Outriders too, although my main reason against it is that GW's idea with them is that they should have no heroes, though tbh I think since they're Rohan, they could definately benefit from it, so I may put them in when I come back here.


@Draugluin, aye, but I'm busy and I've only got a couple of the, done right now, but I am in the process of making WotR profiles for the Hobbit minis, in fact I have some really good ideas, I think. I hope you like them.

Keep an eye out, I will hopefully have all the Hobbit profiles done soon. 8)

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Right guys, I have done all the Good Guys, and I just have 5 Evil Guys profiles left to do. Before I post the lot, I just thought I'd give you a preview. I thought it better for now at least if they were all added to existing lists. I put the Hunter Orcs in Angmar not Moris because I wanted to keep it Orc free.

Biblo Baggins - Forgotten Kingdoms
Thorin Oakenshield - Dwarves
Dwalin - Dwarves
Balin - Dwarves
Dori - Dwarves
Nori - Dwarves
Ori - Dwarves
Oin - Dwarves
Gloin - Dwarves
Bifor - Dwarves
Bofur - Dwarves
Bombur - Dwarves
Fili - Dwarves
Kili - Dwarves
Lindir - Elves
Rivendell Knights - Elves
Radagast on bunny Sled - Forgotten kingdoms
(Sebastian) as upgrade for either Radagast
Thror - Dwarves
Thrain - Dwarves
Erebor Warriors - Dwarves
Grim Hammers - Dwarves
The Great Goblin - Misty Mountains
The Goblin Scribe - Misty mountains
Grinnah - Misty Mountains
Goblin Warriors - Misty Mountains
Azog, Captain of Mt Gundabad - Angmar
Azog Riding The White Warg - Angmar
Bolg - Angmar
Fimbul's Hunters - Angmar
Narzug - Angmar
Hunter Orcs - Angmar
Hunter Orcs w/ Fell Wargs - Angmar
Fell Wargs - Angmar
Bill - Angmar
Bert - Angmar
Tom - Angmar

The following models will just use existing profiles, in thecase of Radagast you can have either or.

Gandalf, Radagast, Elrond, Gollum, Galadriel, Saruman, Gwaihir, Giant Eagle

And here is your preview profile: Bilbo

Bilbo Baggins Pts value 75pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Bilbo Hobbit Hero - 3/- - - - 2 5 2 Epic Hero

Epic Actions: Epic Defence

Special Rules: Sting, The Ring
Sting: Bilbo’s company has the Orcbane, Goblinbane and Uruk-haibane special rules. In addition, Bilbo’s formation ignores enchanted cloaks worn by, and causes Terror in, formations of the above races and may notice.
The Ring: Bilbo may put on the Ring at the start of the Move Phase. He rolls a D6, on the roll of a 4+ he is removed as if he was a casualty and must redeploy at the start of the next time in any friendly formation within 12” of the spot he vanished from.

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Haven't seen this before, but I'm so glad to see those models with WOTR rules.

Looking forward to the Hobbit ones there too. I agree with the way you have placed them.

I would make the trolls a 'one purchase' unit so you cannot just take one, but must take all 3...

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You beat me to it. Looks very good, but what do you mean by

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and may notice

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the next time


Is time phase, turn or a period of your choice?

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What concerns me is that the Dwarves will be getting a plethora of heroes. I would rule most of the 13 to be unusable on their own, they would have to either be paired or another ruling to be made.

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I'd make them a Company of Heroes, similar to The White Council

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Agree 90%. We should not forget that some of the Dwarves in the company were not warriors, rather they were craftsmen and artisans. I think that the most prominent ones, Thorin, Balin, Dwalin, should also have separate entries (Balin already does...).
I am extremely curious as to your Elven additions. I hope that they will make the list more competitive.

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Yes, I also agree that the the the 13 should be made into a unit that is much like the Fellowship, the nine, or the White Council. Have each dwarf give some benefit, and of course Gandalf can use his "Necromancy" to bring them back when they are killed.

I don't think the new Orcs should be part of the Angmar lists, they should be in the Moria ones. However, with that said, I do know there is a major distinction between the types of Goblins that live in that area.

I made Allied lists some time ago for my gaming group. I do have a seperate entry for Gundabad types, and I'll make a new one for Goblin Town types.

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Thanks for the feedback guys, allow me to reply in order of post.

@goblin king, i don't think you should force people to take all three, but I think thereshould be a rule that makes them ore powerful if you field them together, and I have just the thing. i got the iea from the Nazgul battlehost.

@Telchar no 1: "may notice" should read "may notice enemey formations using ambush under the following races on the roll of a 4+" "The next time" should simply mean "the next turn".

@Company of Heroes thoughts. Yes, definately I agree with you, I firgot about that at the time i was doing that. It explains why I found the Companions the most annoying models to sort out. The following heroes will be able to be taken as individual Epic Heroes:

Bilbo, Gandalf, Thorin, Dwalin, Balin, Gloin, Fili and Kili. The last too have some Elladan/Elrohor type rules.

I will revise the company tommorow morning, so I should have everything ready by the afternoon. I was originally goin to post it as a Xmas present to One Ring, but there was so much family stuff going on. I have the profiles on a word document, but they're saved under a weird fr,mat so I can't just do quick copy andpaste, so I won;t put up any tonight as it si already late, and it would take me til past 4 if I did it now.

@killerkertanas/Brian: Aye, but as I said I don't want to put any Orcs in the Misty Mountains list. Plus that list is already rather big, and Angmar is small. If,once i've posted the rules, it still feels wrong, the issue will be tackled.

Also, I saw your thread, I myself had made one too, but didn't want to post it since it had already been covered. I read through, andagreed 90% with what you did.

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The Dwarf Holds

Thorin’s Company Pts value 550pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
The Company Dwarf Infantry 5 6/4+ 5 6 15 3 6 12 Legendary Formation

One company comprised of Thorin, Gandalf, Bilbo, Dwalin, Balin, Fili, Kili, Dori, Nori, Ori, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, Oin and Gloin. If you include this, you cannot take any of these heroes in any other form. It uses a base with dimensions 100mm by 75mm

Wargear:
Hand weapons.

Magic:
Wilst Gandalf is alive, the Company has a Mastery level of 3. These spells are considered to be cast by Gandalf for the purposes of range. Gandalf knows all the spells of Dismay and Command.
Special Rules:
Indomitable, Pathfinders (Master), Stalwart, We Stand Alone, Company of Heroes
Company of Heroes Each Hero (or small group see below) in the Company contributes a particular special rule. The controlling player is free to remove casualties in whichever order he chooses, but once a Hero (or group) is removed as a casualty, the associated special rule is lost. Gandalf’s magic replaces a special rule The Company may not take part in a Heroic duel.
We Shall Take Back Erebor (Thorin): The Company is armed with shields, increasing their defence to 6(8), bows and two-handed axes.
The Burglar (Bilbo): Enemy formations charged by the Company must pass a courage test or suffer automatic D3 -1 (to a minimum of 1) hits.
We Will Slay Orcs (Fili and Kili): The Company has the Orcbane and Goblinbane special rules.
Some of Us Are Warriors (Dwalin): The Company may reroll failed To Hit rolls of 1 or 2.
Keeper of Scrolls (Balin): The Good Player may add +1 to their Priority rolls.
We Don’t Have a Home (Bifur and Bofur): When attacking enemies in defensive terrain that is a Building, the Company may add +1 to the D6 results in combat.
The Cook (Bombur): Once per priority, a D6 may be rolled. On the roll of a 6, sufficient energy has been regained and one casualty (or group) may be brought back.
Fought Countless Battles (Oin and Gloin): The Company is steadfast on the roll of a 4 or more.
We Are All Friends (Dori, Nori & Ori): When expending a Might point to call a Heroic Action. Roll a D6, on a 5 or more, friendly formations within 6” may make an action of the same type without expending any Might.

Bilbo (see earlier post)

Thorin Oakenshield Pts value 200pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Thorin Dwarf Hero - 7/- - - - 3 6 4 Epic Hero
Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Strike, Epic Rage, Epic Duel

Special Rules
Orcbane, Goblinbane, Inspiring Leader (Dwarves), Touched by Destiny, The Oakenshield, Orcrist, Pathfinders (Mountains), Terror
The Oakenshield: Thorin’s formation gains +1 Defence as long as Thorin is alive. This is cumulative with the bonuses for shields, Fortunes and other special rules.
Orcrist: Thorin’s formation has the Orcbane, Goblinbane and Uruk-haibane special rules. In addition, Thorin’s formation ignores enchanted cloaks worn by, and causes Terror in, formations of the above races and may notice them when in ambush.

Dwalin the Dwarf Pts value 160pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Dwalin Dwarf Hero - 6/- - - - 4 6 3 Epic Hero Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Strike, Epic Rage, Epic Rampage

Special Rules
Terror, Orcbane, Goblinbane, Fearless, Pathfinders (Mountains)
Fearless: Dwalin’s company automatically passes all Courage tests. Additionally, if Dwalin expends a Might point, his formation gains the Berserk rule for one turn.

Balin the Dwarf Pts value 145pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Balin Dwarf Hero - 5/- - - - 3 6 3 Epic Hero Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Defence, Epic Renewal

Special Rules
Counsellor, Inspiring Hero (Dwarves), Longbeard, Pathfinders (Mountains)
Longbeard: As long as Balin is alive, his controlling player may add +1 to his or her priority rolls.

Oin the Dwarf Pts value 55pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Oin Dwarf Hero - 4/- - - - 1 6 2 Epic Hero
Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Renewal, Epic Restoration, Epic Challenge

Special Rules
Prognostication, Pathfinders (Mountains)

Prognostication: Oin’s company may reroll failed To Hit rolls of 1.

Gloin the Dwarf Pts value 160pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Gloin Dwarf Hero - 6/- - - - 3 6 4 Epic Hero Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Strike, Epic Challenge, Epic Rage, Epic Rampage

Special Rules
Terror, Orcbane, A Warrior Born, Pathfinders (Mountains)
A Warrior Born: Gloin’s formation may reroll failed To Hit rolls of 1. This is not cumulative with Epic Rampage.

Fili the Dwarf Pts value 65pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Fili Dwarf Hero - 5/- - - - 2 5 1 Epic Hero
Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Strike, Epic Defence, Epic Sacrifice

Special Rules
Bodyguard, Unbreakable Bond, Pathfinders (Mountains)
Bodyguard: Whilst Thorin is alive, the controlling player can force Fili to fight in any Heroic Duels directed at Thorin or Kili.
Unbreakable Bond: Fili can benefit from any Heroic actions called by his brother. If Kili calls a Heroic action, Fili may immediately call a Heroic action of the same type without using Might.

Kili the Dwarf Pts value 65pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Kili Dwarf Hero - 5/- - - - 2 5 1 Epic Hero Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Shot, Epic Defence, Epic Sacrifice

Special Rules
Bodyguard, Unbreakable Bond, Pathfinders (Mountains)
Bodyguard: Whilst Thorin is alive, the controlling player can force Kili to fight in any Heroic Duels directed at Thorin or Fili.
Unbreakable Bond: Kili can benefit from any Heroic actions called by his brother. If Fili calls a Heroic action, Kili may immediately call a Heroic action of the same type without using Might.

Gandalf the Grey: See Gandalf the Grey. Elrond: See Elrond, Master of Rivendell

The Elven Kingdoms


Lindir, Elf of Rivendell Epic Hero Pts value 100

RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Lindir Elf Hero - 6/- - - - 2 6 2 Single Model

Epic Actions:
Epic Strike, Epic Channelling, Epic Defence

Magic: Lindir knows all the Spells of the Wilderness and the Spells of Command. He has a Mastery level
of 1.

Special Rules
Wise Counsel, Pathfinders (Master), Terror
Wise Counsel: If Elrond is within 6” of Lindir, Elrond may expend a single point of Might a per turn and re-roll a single failed Focus roll per turn.

Rivendell Knight Regiment Pts value 70pts / company
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Rivendell Knights Elf Cavalry 12 6/- 3 6 4 2 5 Common Formation
Knight Commander Elf Hero - 7/- - - - 2 6 2 1-6 companies

Wargear:
Each company has hand weapons, heavy armour, lances and longbows. The entire formation may be given shields – increasing each company’s Defence to 6(7) – for +5 points per company.

Command:
The first company purchased is automatically the command company. The command company may have the following options:
Knight Commander 50 pts
Banner Bearer 35 pts
High Elf Stormcaller 100pts (See another thread)
Elven Hornblower 15 pts

Special Rules:
Expert Riders, Pathfinders (Mountains), Terror
Forgotten Kingdoms

Special Rule for Sebastian: Sebastian the Hedgehog may be taken as an upgrade either for Radagast the Brown or Radagast on Sled for 5pts. If Sebastian is taken, at the start of the fight phase, before Heroic or Epic Actions are declared, the controlling player must make 1 attack at Strength 1 against a single enemy formation or hero in base contact with Radagast. Radagast may not use his Might points to modify this result.

Radagast on Sled Legendary Formation
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt Pts value 200
Radagast Spirit Monster 10 4/- 6 6 4 2 5 3 Single Model

Wargear:
Radagast wields a two-handed weapon and rides in a Rabbit-drawn Sled.

Epic Actions:
Radagast may make the following Epic Actions as if he was an Epic Hero
Epic Renewal, Epic Tranquillity, Epic Defence

Magic: Radagast knows all the Spells of the Wilderness and the Spells of Command. He has a Mastery level of 3.

Special Rules
Pathfinders (Woodland), Beast Walk, Birdsight, Expert Rider, Hard to Kill!
Beast Walk: Radagast may Charge D6=6” as if he was a Flying Monster.
Birdsight: Radagast can see everywhere on the board – he does not need arc of sight or line of sight for any of his spells.

Dwarf Holds (continued)

King Thror Pts value 210pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Thror Dwarf Hero - 8/- - - - 4 6 4 Epic Hero Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Challenge, Epic Rage, Epic Rampage

Special Rules
Terror, Fearless, Goblinbane, Arkenstone, Pathfinders (Mountains)
Arkenstone: Every time Thror takes a hit as a result of a Heroic Duel or Magical Power roll a D6, on the roll of 6, the Hit is immediately discounted.

King Thrain Pts value 200pts
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Thrain Dwarf Hero - 8/- - - - 3 6 6 Epic Hero Single Model
Epic Actions:
Epic Charge, Epic Rage, Epic Rampage, Epic Duel

Special Rules
Inspiring Leader (Master), Blood Feud, Pathfinders (Mountains)
Blood Feud: Thrain may reroll results on the Heroic Duel table when fighting against Azog.

Erebor Warrior Kinband Pts value 35pts / company
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Erebor Warriors Dwarf Infantry 5 4/- 3 6(8) 8 1 4 Common Formation
Captain of Erebor Dwarf Hero - 5/- - - - 2 5 2 1-6 companies

Wargear:
Each company has hand weapons heavy armour and shields. The entire formation may be given or pikes for +5 points per company.
Command:
The first company purchased is automatically the command company. The command company may have the following options:
Captain of Erebor 50 pts
Banner Bearer 35 pts
Shieldbearer 25pts (See WotR rules manual)
Dwarf Hornblower 15 pts

Special Rules:
Stalwart

Grim Hammer Kinband Pts value 45pts / company
RACE TYPE M F S D A R C Mt
Grim Hammers Dwarf Infantry 5 5/- 4 6 8 1 4 Common Formation
Grm Hmmr Cptn Dwarf Hero - 6/- - - - 2 5 2 1-4 companies

Wargear:
Each company has two-handed weapons and heavy armour.

Command:
The first company purchased is automatically the command company. The command company may have the following options:
Grim Hammer Captain 50 pts
Banner Bearer 35 pts
Shieldbearer 25pts (See WotR rules manual)
Dwarf Hornblower 15 pts

Special Rules:
Stalwart, Pick Hammer
Pick Hammer: Grim Hammer supporting companies make D3+1 attacks rather than +1

That is all the Good models. Evil models will be up hopefully tomorrow.

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I have not yet your newest houserules, but I have been expecting them with great anticipation! Thank you for your contribution!

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Radagast seems a bit over priced. Maybe either give him Very Hard to Kill or make him a bit cheaper.

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My only comment is about Bombur. Gandalf already has the ability to bring the dead back to life, so why Bombur too?

As a cook, he would give stamina to his companions with a terrific meal, so I think his ability should be to give the party a bonus in their movement, rather than bring the dead back to life.

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