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 Post subject: Re: Random Projects: Orc Banner Conversion
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:59 pm 
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Nice banner conversion also the ugluk conversion is really good and i think you pulled it of brilliantly :)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:07 pm 
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I converted this guy with a paper banner years ago. However, after learning how to sculpt better banners, I decided to give him a new one.


Can you explain how you make banners? It's something I would like to do someday, but I can't seem to figure it out.

The conversion looks good, and so does the paint job 8)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:41 pm 
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Natarn wrote:
I converted this guy with a paper banner years ago. However, after learning how to sculpt better banners, I decided to give him a new one.


Can you explain how you make banners? It's something I would like to do someday, but I can't seem to figure it out.

The conversion looks good, and so does the paint job 8)



I will try to give a little step by step guide here, but it would be easier to show you!
You do need to be a little bit handy with the old green stuff, but it's not particularly hard.

1. Drill a hole in the hand of the model so it can hold a wire.

2. Insert wire and cut to length. Glue wire in place.

3. Whittle a couple of sections of matchstick to make the rough-hewn limbs of the banner (the cross piece and the diagonal piece). Cut these to the right length.

4. Superglue the wooden limbs to the main wire. Just the wood, not your fingers!

5. Mix up a teeny-tiny amount of green stuff, roll it into a tiny 'sausage' and wrap it around the wood to make it look like it's tied together. To make this green stuff rope thinner, use a tool to press a narrow line down the middle of it - then you have two thin ropes instead of one big one. NB Only do one rope at a time and leave it to set, otherwise you'll just squash your lovely rope when moving on to the next piece, no matter how careful you are.

6.Coat the wire with a thin layer of green stuff, then scrape it off to look like carved wood.

7. Use green stuff to make the fabric of the banner. The main tip here is to use some smooth rubber gloves so that you do not leave any finger prints in the green stuff. Cut it square-ish and cut some jagged bits in the bottom of the banner. Still using the gloves, pinch the edges to thin them out a bit. Bear in mind that the banner does not have to be as thin as it would be in real life - it's so tricky to work with such thin greenstuff and it doesn't hold its shape well. Look at a GW flag or banner. They are really chunky, having a fair depth to them, but we still 'read' them as being fabric banners.

8. Attach this flag to the cross piece while the gs is still fresh. Shape the banner a bit with tools to give it a bit of shape - perhaps as if it has just caught in the wind or it is flapping behind as the warrior is running forwards. Just use your imagination. Where you've joined it to the cross piece, make a tiny piercing ready to take the next lot of ropes.

9. As usual, leave the gs to 'go off' thoroughly before sculpting more little ropes to look like it is holding the fabric to the cross piece.

That's about it. Just try it out. The more practice you get, the better the banners will become.
Just remember to be patient and let the gs set at each stage before moving on. If you try to do too much in one go, it'll just be a disaster!

I hope this helps you. :)

PS: If you turn back a couple of pages, you'll see the different stages of the Uruk banner I made, which might make it a bit clearer.

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 Post subject: Re: Random Projects: Orc Banner Conversion
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:21 pm 
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Cool, thanks! That helps a lot. Now I just need to get some green stuff and try it out.

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Great sculpt, and looking forward to the new warrior of the dead.
Are you going to cast your new sculpt aswell? (might be tempted to by a few if you do)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:01 pm 
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Great sculpt, and looking forward to the new warrior of the dead.
Are you going to cast your new sculpt aswell? (might be tempted to by a few if you do)


Yes, that's the plan.
The idea is that his arms will be separate so can be glued in different positions. I'll make a mold and cast him up to boost my ranks of undead.
I've got to do some work on the arm though. I might end up casting him with a fixed sword arm and then using one of the cast arms to make a new arm from which I'll make casts.

I've just finished painting my 7 Mordor banners and now I'm painting some orc captains.
I do like this hobby.

Mind you, I started to learn the piano last week and am now somewhat obsessed! There are some advantages to being slightly OCD as I'm making rapid progress. :) It's fun!

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haha Good luck with the Piano. At first, I absolutely hated playing. But, as it grew on me, every time I see one, I get the sudden urge to play something or anything.
Can't wait to see the painted banners. I don't think I ever showed you pictures of the finished Dead Banner I bought from you, did I?
Keep up the great work!

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Paint me a drama queen worthy of Mordor...

(How's that for a challenge?)

Exit Dorth, stage left, to a fanfare of trumpets and applause :yay:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:42 pm 
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Dorthonion wrote:
Paint me a drama queen worthy of Mordor...

(How's that for a challenge?)

Exit Dorth, stage left, to a fanfare of trumpets and applause :yay:



:?:

Dorth, sometimes you are so obscure, even I don't know what you're talking about! :?

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Good to hear you're going to cast them. :D

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Mind you, I started to learn the piano last week and am now somewhat obsessed! There are some advantages to being slightly OCD as I'm making rapid progress. It's fun!


A lovely obsession that is. (at least if you have a bit more of a feeling for it than I do :oops: )

Looking forward to those banners and the captain.

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As usual I'm dotting around and not getting projects finished!
With a little bit o' this, a little bit o' that... and shake your...

I've not touched my dead warrior sculpt for ages so must get back to that soon.

Over the past few weeks I've been repainting my goblin army and adding more warriors to my backlog (75 minis for £10.50 - thank you eBay!).

My current work in progress is the Rohan music on piano. I've got Eowyn's theme sussed and am now working on the first couple of staves of The King of the Golden Hall. I'm loving it!

Oh, and I got a Balrog and am working on him too - all for my Moria army... and then there's that cave troll, who needs an arm sticking back on before I get the paint brush out.

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Goblin mania!

I've just completed painting 43 goblin bowmen, so now I've got 115 goblins finished.
Just another 90 to go...

Has anyone made any Gundabad Blackshield conversions using the plastic minis with helmets?
I'm wondering about having a go at this to add a bit of muscle to my goblin army.

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 Post subject: Re: Random Projects: Gundabad Blackshield Conversions?
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:10 pm 
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looking forward to group pictures of them , must look cool an amount that big!

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Whoo! That's a lot of crummy archers...Can we see pictures of this massive army? I have not tried to make blackshield conversions, but I would be very interested to see someone with your skill at sculpting takle the challenge. :)
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:32 pm 
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Ha ha! Well, a lot of crummy archers can do a lot of damage sometimes! ;)

Here are some pictures to help you get the idea. :)

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This also shows the ones I've yet to paint.
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Fiddly little things aren't they!


PS. This isn't a massive army... Have you seen my Uruks?

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lol that's a crazy lots of gobbo's, wow. I don't know if i would have the patience to go trough a heap that big! Nice work!

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Ah, well, it IS boring working on these guys, but the end result is worth it! I batch painted the last 43, which helped get through them.

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yeah, it quite helps to do more then one at a time. It helped me get trough most of the uruk hai in the end. 4 of those fella's to go but i am working on a comic project for the moment so painting is just in between.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:20 pm 
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High Elf Conversions

I may have been quiet on this site for a couple of years (out on my motorbikes for most of that time - which are now sold [sobs] due to carpal tunnel syndrome) but I'm now busy painting and converting again and soon may do some more sculpting. It's been a long time!

Now I'm trying to figure out how to get pictures from photobucket onto this page.
Any tips?

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 Post subject: Re: Random Projects: Plastic High Elf Conversions
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copy image code and paste it in here? normally should be working

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