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 Post subject: Who is in Theoden's party riding out from helm's deep?
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:26 pm 
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I'm planning to recreate the scene from helms deep where theoden, aragorn etc ride out, and gandalf and Eomer come save the day.

I just re-watched the movie and noticed there's an extra person I hadn't noticed in the charge. I know there is theoden, aragorn, legolas, gamling and 4 x royal guard, but does anyone know who the other guy is on the white horse, blonde hair? They don't really give a good shot of him, but he's not dressed as a royal guard, but I would assume he is someone important riding with the king
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He is legolas. Was supposed to be arwen but pj changed it at the last moment and cgi'd in another legolas.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:25 pm 
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So there are two legolas's following each other?
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Yup. They didnt realise how obvious it was until it was too late.

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Oh OK that's weird haha, I think the armour on the horse changes too, because I was trying to tell them apart. Sometimes it has armour on the head, sometimes it doesn't
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Its a CGI sequence, they must have accidentally duplicated Legolas.

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I might have to re watch that bit of the movie!
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I can only see him once though!
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I love how in this pic Aragorn's all like "Yeah, go for it Theoden, I'll let you have this one..."
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Hah, thanks for the heads up and info SD, I consider myself quite the geek on the film trilogy but I'd never noticed this, just had a look and it's so obvious when you know it's there!

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I was under the impression it was 'just an elf'. From a dodgy memory, I recall that it was originally supposed to have been Arwen :-o. She was scripted to be at Helms Deep but wisely PJ and Co decided against it but the riding out scene had been done; therefore she was CGI'd into a second blond Elf. I could (and probaly am) wrong but it does ring a bell.

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Watched the scene again and it is indeed a 2nd Legolas,
you can't see him clearly, but he is recognizable.
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Ha. I never noticed that before but just watched it and there he is. Does that mean that I can include legolas twice in my army now?

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Ha. I never noticed that before but just watched it and there he is. Does that mean that I can include legolas twice in my army now?


...no... >.>

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I was under the impression it was 'just an elf'. From a dodgy memory, I recall that it was originally supposed to have been Arwen :-o. She was scripted to be at Helms Deep but wisely PJ and Co decided against it but the riding out scene had been done; therefore she was CGI'd into a second blond Elf. I could (and probaly am) wrong but it does ring a bell.

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You are correct, I already posted this in my earlier posts.

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Papa Hoth wrote:
I was under the impression it was 'just an elf'. From a dodgy memory, I recall that it was originally supposed to have been Arwen :-o. She was scripted to be at Helms Deep but wisely PJ and Co decided against it but the riding out scene had been done; therefore she was CGI'd into a second blond Elf. I could (and probaly am) wrong but it does ring a bell.

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You are correct, I already posted this in my earlier posts.[/quote]

Yep, you did. Not exactly sure how I missed that :-)
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